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Home Work / 2009/12/3 (星期四）
« Last post by MartinFeng on December 03, 2009, 08:29:13 pm »
Finish the discussion of the poem "I lost my talk "

If you finished ,that will be no homework !! ;D ;D ;D
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Poetry / Re: Echoes: Reach Out and Touch ~ Maxine Tynes
« Last post by AllenZ on November 29, 2009, 03:54:22 pm »
The poem "Reach Out and Touch" demonstrates the problem of racism agaist blackpeople especially in North America. The speaker is a very kind person, and since the poet is a woman I assume that the speaker is a woman too. On the bus, while an innocent kid is wondering about her skin colour and hairs, and trying to touch her, the mother just stopped the kid by "slapping hands away/hush-up of your questions/and wondering out loud." This is the typical appearance of prejudice agianst black people. The kid knows nothing about racism, but how their parents react to blackpeople will definetely influence these innocent kids. What is the point to be racialist? Nobody knows, but that's how kids who know nothing are planted the seed of racism in thier minds.


The speaker is upset just like the tone is. Her honesty and sincereness did not recover the un-biased opinions and equality. The worse thing is that even an innocent child is afraid of her, the door of friendship is sealed. However, the tone isn't pure pointing down. " I should have sat beside you/snuggled my big warm self up closen/held you while your mama juggled parcels./then you would know it's o.k." It suggests that the speaker will keep working on let people know about them. All the discrimination and racism come from the lack of understanding and knowing balckpeople and black culture. Actually, I think the speaker speaks out Maxine Tynes' idea of elimiating racism by introducong black culture to more people. Because people don't know, they do ings like "witch hunting." The poet understands the need to express their history in the form of writing. "Borrowed Beauty" is one of her collections of work that showcase the struggles of black Canadian women.



Although there is no strong emotional description in this poem, I can still feel the mood contains frustration and disppointment. Despite the platform of equality and freedom, the racism is one thing that North Americans have to think about.
Blackpeople are no barbarians, the speaker turns and smile for the kid, but the kid is already lost
in the silence and fear that motherlove wraps him in. And this kid is just one of thousands of kids like him. They have no value at such a young age, and the only people they rely upon are their dear parents. However, their parents sut up the model of being racialist, that has badly impact on their children.
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Poetry / Re: Analysis and Synthesis: I Grew Up & The Urban Indian
« Last post by amycao on November 29, 2009, 03:47:53 pm »
In "the Urban Indian" by Drew Hayden Taylor and "I Grew Up" by Lenore Keeshig-Tobias the Protagonist are both talks about their homeland. However, they are different in somewhere.       First, in the” I Grew Up" the speaker is love his homeland very much; it is filled with infinite devotion. Know across "thinking it was the most beautiful place in the world."(line1) In "The Urban Indian" the speaker was comfortable in the big city (Toronto), even he is want go back his homeland ("I could return to the community that spawned me.") (para13), but it is not fierceness.
Second, In the poem “I Grew Up" we can not know did he leave his homeland really, because he just said "I grew up thinking ' I'm never going to leave this place'.”(4-6) He said this when he just a child, it is not mean he will not leave here later. In "The Urban Indian" the speaker was leave his homeland and he was comfortable in Toronto. The mood is excited when I read "I Grew Up", and the mood of "The Urban Indian" is a little yearning.
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Poetry / Re: Echoes: Reach Out and Touch ~ Maxine Tynes
« Last post by amycao on November 29, 2009, 03:16:49 pm »
  1 Write a theme statement for this poem.
I think the poem is talk about jim crowism. Across “I turn and smile for you, but you're already lost in the silence and fear that motherlove wraps you in." The baby was changed his mind about the black woman after he found the black woman is different with he in somewhere.
   2 What is the tone or the mood of this poem?
The tone is a little sad, because I think nobody want be discriminated by others. However, in the poem is not rage, she is just be down in spirits.
   3 Moods
I was angry, because I think it is break the woman's proper pride, and it is not devoir for others.
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Poetry / Re: Analysis and Synthesis: I Grew Up & The Urban Indian
« Last post by AllenZ on November 29, 2009, 02:47:25 pm »
In the poem "Urban Indian," the speaker is kind of hypercritical. That he knows the reserve is his homeland, but he has already adapted to the new urban life. To be specific, he feels pretty comfortable in city. He has his work, and he can order food whenever he wants. It is a little strange that to be an Indian like him, but he just enjoys being one. Although he says that he doesn't want to be one of them, according to his attitide toward a typical urban life we can still see that he is satisfied and happy with his urban life.

In contrast, in the poem " I Grew up," the speaker is nolstalgic. When he was a little child he thought that he loved his homeland -the reserve- so much that he would never leave. He mocked at ignorrant tourists who mismatched bushes and forests. Maybe the reserve is not as developed as urban areas, the bond between him and his Indian culture still keeps him holding the strong emotion toward his homeland. Implicitly, readers can know that the speaker has left his homeland for some reasons, but according to his memory about the reserve, we know he misses home. The simple and happy life is always attractive to him. He can lay under the tree, look at wind's rhythems, and eat berries. It is not like the life of sitting in front of a computer, staring at the screen, and drinking some instant coffee. The memory about reserves always beautiful.

However, both speakers share one common thing; that is, the change of their lives aren't sudden, and it has been a long procedure that is not easy to perceive. And someday, they just realize that their lives has changed as years roll on. "When tomorrow turns in today, yesterday, and someday that no more important in your memory, we suddenly realize that we are pushed forward by time. This is not a train in still in which you may feel forward when another train goes by. It is the truth that we've all grown up.And we become different." As this quote goes, this is that kind of change.

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Poetry / Re: Echoes: Experience ~ Dorothy Livesay
« Last post by amycao on November 29, 2009, 02:39:38 pm »
1 What is the poem talking about?
The poem talks about how the experience influence your life.

2What does "Experience" mean in stanza one?
Experience in the first stanza is :
Others talk to you about their experience, however, you can not understand really. Experience need go through by you, because everyone is different. Only learn this from talking can not useable, it is not your own feeling and thinking.

3 What does "Experience" mean in stanza two?  Why would the narrator choose to experience the bitter and the sweet?
In the stanza two the experience is from you. You got go your own way. Go through by yourself and feeling by yourself. The experience is a important fortune. Bitter and sweet are contrary, but everyone should be going through this. You can know and cherish the sweat after you go through the bitter. Both sweet and bitter can make you know about your own life in the flesh.
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Poetry / Re: Echoes: Experience ~ Dorothy Livesay
« Last post by AllenZ on November 29, 2009, 01:14:40 am »
This poem talks about how people learn to live, or I can say it talks about the controversial topic of growing up.
There is no doubt that the some experience that older generations possess is worth us to learn. After learning from their experience, teenagers can have a more round view of things. However, in stanza 1, the poet seems to negate the positice side of the experience that otheres taught him. According to the poet, if one keeps listening to others, he/she will verver learn a thing. I don't think so, it is all a matter of where we draw the line. It is important to evaluate whether others' experience is suitable for you or not. Otherwise, we would either be arrogant or unconfident.

The second stanza suggests that people will learn how to live their life by going through all the experiences in person. I cannot agree more with that. he best way to learn something is to do it. Time after time, we learn by ourselves and we will never forget.
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Poetry / Re: Analysis and Synthesis: I Grew Up & The Urban Indian
« Last post by Jane Shin on November 28, 2009, 11:31:54 pm »
The narrators in both "The Urban Indian" and "I Grew Up" are native but do not live in native reserve. The narrator in "The Urban Indian" admitted that he is an urban Indian and remembers the reserve where he grew up. The narrator says, "The reserve is still deep within me." This means the narrator likes the reserve. However, the narrator does not want to go back there because the narrator already got adapted to life in Toronto. In contrast, the narrator of "I Grew Up" languishes for the reserve. "I grew up thinking 'i'm never going to leave this place"(line 4-6), this means that the narrator did not want to leave there, but maybe it can't be helped. And the narrator describes the reserve is very beautiful.
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Poetry / Re: Analysis and Synthesis: I Grew Up & The Urban Indian
« Last post by mariahshin on November 28, 2009, 10:32:58 pm »
  Both of the narrators in "The Urban Indian" and "I Grew Up" are native people. They used to live in their native reserves, but now they may left there. In "The Urban Indian", we directly know it, but we can know that the speaker in "I Grew Up" also left his reserve inderectly. In the refrain "I grew up thinking/ 'i'm never going/ to leave this place'", the speaker only tells that he thought he would live there forever, but the tone suggests that he probably left the reserve now.
  However, the attitudes of the narrators in "I Grew Up" and "The Urban Indian" toward their reserves are a little different. The speaker in "I Grew Up" liked his reserve not only for giving him his identity, but he loved the nature, the people, and everything there in the reserve. He was "a child who would lie under trees"(line8-9) and "a child who ran wild rhythms through the fields"(line 23-25), "eating berries/ cupping cool water to [his] wild stained mouth"(line 28-30). However, the narrator in "The Urban Indian" chooses to live as a citzen of a big city Toronto, since he already got used to the comfortable city life. He doesnt like the mosquitoes, the natures anymore. (Perhaps he still likes them, but he does avoid them at first!)
  The tone in "I Grew Up" is rather more sentimental, or nostalgic, since the speaker misses his reserves. However, the narrator in "The Urban Indian" accepts his "civic status" and keeps enjoying his life as a citizen of Toronto.

Um,,, Please tell me if i misunderstood,, so that i can fix them.. haha thanks
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